Interview with Massimo Cacciari: Stop shooting, now everyone around the table for peace

Professor Cacciari, you are among the signatories of an appeal for peace also signed by right-wing intellectuals such as Pierangelo Buttafuoco and Marcello Veneziani. An initiative that has turned many lips on the left. No one has the intention of removing political differences and aggression and therefore on the violation of one of the few principles of international law that in one formula or another everyone recognizes. Let's not make a fuss about how many times and by whom these principles have been violated, because it is clear that if in a situation of this kind we begin to see the faults of one or the other since the dawn of time, we will never finish. Let's forget it, for the sake of our country. Today as of today there is this aggression. So Russia must recognize the mistake, the fault, call it what you want, committed. Certainly it was a colossal strategic mistake because it is clear that Russia thought it could destabilize the Ukrainian Government with some sort of blitzkrieg and thus secure the Donbass, the Crimea, the outlets to the Black Sea, and this was an incredible underestimation of the adversary kind of seeing the faults of one or the other since the dawn of time, there is no end. Let's forget it, for the sake of the country. Today there is this aggression. So Russia must recognize the mistake, the fault, call it what you want,. commission It was certainly a colossal strategic error because it is clear that Russia thought it could destabilize the Ukrainian government with a sort of blitzkrieg and thus secure the Donbass, Crimea, the channels leading to the Black Sea, and this was an incredible underestimation of the adversary, of the position of NATO and so on.. There is Russia which, due to its own mistake, must recognize the crime which on the level of international law has committed, saying it is immediately ready for a unilateral ceasefire, and on the other hand Europe, because I don't see who else, should finally play an active part, that is to guarantee that at the same time as this Russian act, serious negotiations will open on the things that are really under discussion. And which are not debatable because they are facts; That is to say ? The civil war in D it was a colossal strategic mistake because it is clear that Russia thought it could destabilize the Ukrainian government with a sort of blitzkrieg and thus secure Donbass, Crimea, the outlets to the Black Sea, and this is it was an incredible underestimation of the adversary, of the position of NATO and so on. There is Russia which, due to its own fault, must recognize the crime it has committed on the level of international law, saying it is immediately willing even to a unilateral cessation of the fire, and on the other side Europe, because I don't see who else, should finally play an active part, that is to guarantee that at the same time as this Russian act serious negotiations open on the things really under discussion. And which are not debatable because they are facts; That is to say ? The civil war in Donbass, the civil war in all Russian-speaking regions of Ukraine which were attacked by the Ukrainian army. We are talking about acts of open hostility. What would happen in Alto Adige if Italy declared a ban on the German language in that region tomorrow ? I repeat: acts of open hostility towards the Russian-speaking minority. It is not a question of undergoing or endorsing the referendum. Everyone knows very well that a referendum even with all the superintendencies of the world, UN or whoever, would give a certain result in Donbass as in Crimea. The result rio, of the position of NATO and so on.. There is Russia which, due to its fault, must recognize the crime it has committed on the level of international law, saying it is immediately ready for a unilateral ceasefire, and on the other Europe, because I don't see who else, should finally play an active part, that is to guarantee that at the same time as this Russian act serious negotiations are opened on the things that are really under discussion. And which are not debatable because they are facts; I.e. ? The civil war in Donbass, the civil war in all the Russian-speaking regions of Ukraine which were attacked by the Ukrainian army. We are talking about acts of open hostility. What would happen in South Tyrol if Italy would declare a ban on the German language in that region tomorrow ? I repeat: acts of open hostility towards the Russian-speaking minority. It is not a question of undergoing or endorsing the referendum. Everyone knows very well that a referendum even with all the superintendencies in the world , UN or whoever, would give a certain result in Donbass as in Crimea. The result is however obvious, given that these are regions with an overwhelming Russian-speaking majority. Ignoring the referendums does not mean ignoring the vulnerability mentioned above. The civil war with acts of manifest hostility towards a minority. An attempt is made to find a new structure, including a state one, which redefines the very idea of nation, of government and, precisely, of the State. And here it comes into play Europe. Read also !Kiev cannot win if the recovery of Crimea is intended, Putin wants to negotiate but with equal dignity?, Cara's analysis who else should finally play an active part, that is to guarantee that at the same time as this Russian act serious negotiations are opened on the things really under discussion. And which are not debatable because they are facts; That is to say ? The war civil war in Donbass, the civil war in all the Russian-speaking regions of Ukraine that were attacked by the Ukrainian army. We are talking about acts of open hostility. What would happen in South Tyrol if Italy declared a ban on the language tomorrow German in that region ? I repeat: acts of open hostility towards the Russian-speaking minority. It is not a question of undergoing or endorsing the referendum. Everyone knows very well that a referendum even with all the superintendencies in the world, UN or whoever, would give a certain result in Donbass as in Crimea. The result is however obvious, given that these are regions with an overwhelming Russian-speaking majority. Ignoring the referendums does not mean ignoring the vulnerability mentioned above. Civil war cannot be avoided with acts of manifest hostility towards a minority. We are trying to find a new structure, including a state one, which redefines the very idea of nation, of government and, indeed, of State. And here Europe comes into play. Read also !Kiev does not can win if the recovery of Crimea is intended, does Putin want to negotiate but with equal dignity?, Caracciolo's analysis on the war War in Ukraine, there are glimmers of peace but bombs are still raining War in Ukraine, there are glimmers of peace but it is still raining bombs Peace negotiations: Putin opens talks to Biden but Zelensky blocks everything What Europe should do ? It should demonstrate a commitment to seriously address those. issues Bearing in mind that Russia has in fact been saying for years and years that it believes that the methods with which the enlargement of NATO in Eastern European countries takes place are a threat to it. Europe must reassure onbass, the civil war in all the Russian-speaking regions of Ukraine which were attacked by the Ukrainian army. We are talking about acts of open hostility. What would happen in South Tyrol if Italy declared a ban on the German language tomorrow that region ? I repeat: acts of open hostility towards the Russian-speaking minority. It is not a question of undergoing or endorsing the referendum. Everyone knows very well that a referendum even with all the superintendencies in the world, UN or whoever else, would give a certain result in Donbass as in Crimea. The result is however obvious, given that these are regions with an overwhelming Russian-speaking majority. Ignoring the referendums does not mean ignoring the vulnerability mentioned above. Civil war cannot be avoided with acts of manifest hostility towards a minority. We are trying to find a new state structure that redefines the very idea of nation, of government and, indeed, of state. And here Europe comes into play. Read also !Kiev cannot win if we mean the recovery of Crimea, does Putin want to negotiate but with equal dignity?, Caracciolo's analysis on the war War in Ukraine, there are glimmers of peace but bombs are still raining War in Ukraine, there are glimmers of peace but bombs are still raining Negotiations of peace: Putin opens talks to Biden but Zelensky blocks everything What Europe should do ? It should demonstrate a commitment to seriously address those. issues Bearing in mind that Russia has in fact been saying for years and years that it believes that the ways in which it happens the enlargement of NATO in the countries of Eastern Europe are a threat to it. Europe must reassure that there is no threat to Russia. And arrive at real treaties, not like the gentlemen agreements that didn't count for a damn, to put it mildly, after the fall of the Berlin Wall. Europe needs to promote serious peace treaties between the United States, Western powers and Russia, resolving those two three issues that really vitally interest Russia, such as the regions of Donbass, Crimea, which are easily solvable and not necessarily with annexation to Russia but with treaties guaranteed by the nations to: acts of open hostility towards the Russian-speaking minority. It is not a question of undergoing or endorsing the referendum. Everyone knows very well that a referendum even with all the superintendencies in the world, UN or whoever else, would give a certain result in Donbass as in Crimea. The result is however obvious, given that these are regions with an overwhelming Russian-speaking majority. Ignoring the referendums does not mean ignoring the vulnerability mentioned above. Civil war cannot be avoided with acts of manifest hostility towards a minority. We are looking for to find a new state structure that redefines the very idea of nation, of government and, precisely, of State. And here Europe comes into play. Read also !Kiev cannot win if it intends the recovery of Crimea, does Putin want to negotiate but with equal dignity?, Caracciolo's analysis on the war War in Ukraine, there are glimmers of peace but bombs are still raining War in Ukraine, there are glimmers of peace but bombs are still raining Peace negotiations: Putin opens to Biden on the talks but Zelensky blocks everything What Europe should do ? It should demonstrate a commitment to seriously address those. issues Bearing in mind that Russia has in fact been saying for years and years that it believes that the methods with which the NATO enlargement in Eastern European countries are a threat to it. Europe must reassure that there is no threat to Russia. And arrive at real treaties, not like the gentlemen agreements that didn't count for a damn, to put it mildly, after the fall of the Berlin Wall. Europe needs to promote serious peace treaties between the United States, Western powers and Russia, resolving those two three issues that really vitally interest Russia, such as the regions of Donbass, Crimea, which are easily solvable and not necessarily with annexation to Russia but with treaties guaranteed by the United Nations and Europe, which establish that those regions have and enjoy a special status, exactly as in other countries of the world regions that are ethnically autonomous enjoy special statutes. Fair, clear, limpid, natural. If there is then there is the party of the !W la Born anyway?, !let's go to war anyway?, or the idiots who rave that Russia's attack on Ukraine prefigured a landing of the Cossacks at the fountains of St. Peter, if there are any idiots, let me know Frenchism, on the face of the earth, well there have always been and peace to However, this is obvious, given that these are regions with an overwhelming Russian-speaking majority. Ignoring the referendums does not mean ignoring the vulnerability mentioned above. Civil war is not avoided with acts of manifest hostility towards a minority. We try to find a new state structure that redefines the very idea of nation, of government and, indeed, of State. And here Europe comes into play. Read also !Kiev cannot win if recovery is intended of Crimea, does Putin want to negotiate but with equal dignity?, Caracciolo's analysis on the war War in Ukraine, there are glimmers of peace but bombs are still raining War in Ukraine, there are glimmers of peace but bombs are still raining Peace negotiations: Putin opens to Biden on talks but Zelensky blocks everything What Europe should do ? It should demonstrate a commitment to seriously address those. issues Bearing in mind that Russia has in fact been saying for years and years that it believes that the methods with which the enlargement of the Born in Eastern European countries are a threat to it. Europe must reassure that there is no threat to Russia. And arrive at real treaties, not like the gentlemen's agreements that they didn't count a damn, to put it mildly, after the fall of the Berlin Wall. Europe needs to promote serious peace treaties between the United States, Western powers and Russia, resolving those two or three issues that really are of vital interest to Russia, such as the regions of Donbass, Crimea, which are easily resolvable and not necessarily with annexation to Russia but with treaties guaranteed by the United Nations and Europe, which establish that those regions have and enjoy of a special statute, exactly as in other countries of the world regions that are ethnically autonomous enjoy special statutes. Correct, clear, limpid, natural. If there is then there is the party of !W NATO anyway ?, !let's go to war anyway?, or the idiots who rave that Russia's attack on Ukraine prefigured a landing of the Cossacks at the fountains of St. Peter, if there are any idiots, forgive me the Frenchism , on the face of the earth, well they have always been there and peace be to their souls. What is the objective of the appeal that ? signed The document is part of a discussion of common sense and has an objective: to achieve not I say peace, which is a big word, but at least the ceasefire. The European Union must tell Russia to stop the hostilities and not to shoot anymore from tomorrow and, at the same time, must commit to opening immediate peace negotiations between all interested parties on the basis of some principles which are referred to in that short document. And they are factual principles: those recognized in the treaty of I also want a state structure that redefines the very idea of nation, of government and, precisely, of State. And here Europe comes into play. Read also !Kiev cannot win if the aim is to recover the Crimea, does Putin want to negotiate but with equal dignity?, Caracciolo's analysis on the war War in Ukraine, there are glimmers of peace but bombs are still raining War in Ukraine, there are glimmers of peace but bombs are still raining Peace negotiations: Putin opens up to Biden on the talks but Zelensky blocks everything What Europe should do ? It should demonstrate a commitment to seriously address those. issues Bearing also in mind that Russia has in fact been saying for years and years that it believes that the ways in which NATO enlargement takes place in Eastern European countries are a threat to it. Europe must reassure that there is no threat to Russia. And arrive at real treaties, not like gentlemen's agreements which do not they were counted a damn, to put it mildly, after the fall of the Berlin Wall. Europe needs to promote serious peace treaties between the United States, Western powers and Russia, resolving those two or three issues that really are of vital interest to Russia, such as the regions of Donbass and Crimea, which are easily solvable and not necessarily with annexation to Russia but with treaties guaranteed by the United Nations and Europe, which establish that those regions have and enjoy a special statute, exactly like in other countries in the world regions that are ethnically autonomous enjoy special statutes. Fair, clear, limpid, natural. If there is then there is the !W party anyway? , !let's go to war anyway?, or the idiots who rave that Russia's attack on Ukraine prefigured a landing of the Cossacks at the fountains of St. Peter, if there are any idiots, forgive me the Frenchism, on the face of the earth, well they have always been there and peace be to their souls. What is the objective of the appeal that ? signed The document is part of a discussion of common sense and has an objective: to achieve, not to say peace, which is a big word, but at least the ceasefire. The European Union must tell Russia to stop the hostilities and not to shoot anymore from tomorrow and, at the same time, must commit to opening immediate negotiations of peace between all interested parties on the basis of some principles which are referred to in that short document. And they are factual principles: those recognized in the Treaty of Minsk, which was totally disregarded. !After 80 years we are still forced to see the dead. This is why even that article 11 of the Italian Constitution, to repudiate the war is today in Ukraine, but also in the rest of the world, large and small, even in the same families - it is like this current? Ukraine, there are glimmers of peace but bombs are still raining War in Ukraine, there are glimmers of peace but bombs are still raining Peace negotiations: Putin opens talks to Biden but Zelensky blocks everything What Europe should do ? It should demonstrate a commitment to address it seriously those issues. Bearing in mind that Russia has in fact been saying for years and years that it believes that the ways in which NATO's enlargement in Eastern European countries takes place are a threat to it. Europe must reassure that there is no threat to Russia. And arrive at real treaties, not like the gentlemen's agreements which didn't count for a damn, to put it mildly, after the fall of the Berlin Wall. We need to that Europe promotes serious peace treaties between the United States, Western powers and Russia, resolving those two three issues that really vitally interest Russia, such as the regions of Donbass, Crimea, which are easily solvable and not necessarily with annexation to Russia but with treaties guaranteed by the United Nations and Europe, which establish that those regions have and enjoy a special status, exactly as in other countries in the world regions that are ethnically autonomous enjoy special statutes. Correct, clear, limpid, natural. If there is then there is the party of !W is NATO anyway?, !let's go to war anyway?, or the idiots who rave that Russia's attack on Ukraine prefigured a landing of the Cossacks at the fountains of St. Peter, if there are some bastards, forgive me the French, on the face of the earth, well they have always been there and peace to their souls. What is it? This is the objective of the appeal that ? signed The document is part of a discussion of common sense and has an objective: to achieve, not just peace, which is a big word, but at least a ceasefire. There The European Union must tell Russia to stop the hostilities and not to shoot anymore from tomorrow and, at the same time, it must commit to the opening of immediate peace negotiations between all interested parties on the basis of some principles which are referred to in that short document as. And they are factual principles: those recognized in the Treaty of Minsk, which was totally disregarded. !After 80 years we are still forced to see the dead. This is why also Article 11 of the Italian Constitution, to repudiate the war ï Is it so relevant today in Ukraine, but also in the rest of the world, large and small, even in families themselves? that there is no threat to Russia. And arrive at real treaties, not like the gentlemen's agreements which didn't count for a damn, to put it mildly, after the fall of the Berlin Wall. We need to that Europe promotes serious peace treaties between the United States, Western powers and Russia, resolving those two three issues that really vitally interest Russia, such as the regions of Donbass, Crimea, which are easily solvable and not necessarily with annexation to Russia but with treaties guaranteed by the United Nations and Europe, which establish that those regions have and enjoy a special status, exactly as in other countries in the world regions that are ethnically autonomous enjoy special statutes. Correct, clear, limpid, natural. If there is then there is the party of !W is NATO anyway?, !let's go to war anyway?, or the idiots who rave that Russia's attack on Ukraine prefigured a landing of the Cossacks at the fountains of St. Peter, if there are some bastards, forgive me the French, on the face of the earth, well they have always been there and peace to their souls. What is it? This is the objective of the appeal that ? signed The document is part of a discussion of common sense and has an objective: to achieve, not just peace, which is a big word, but at least a ceasefire. There The European Union must tell Russia to stop the hostilities and not to shoot anymore from tomorrow and, at the same time, it must commit to the opening of immediate peace negotiations between all interested parties on the basis of some principles which are referred to in that short document as. And they are factual principles: those recognized in the Treaty of Minsk, which was totally disregarded. !After 80 years we are still forced to see the dead. This is why also Article 11 of the Italian Constitution, to repudiate the war ï Is it so relevant today in Ukraine, but also in the rest of the world, large and small, even in families themselves? of peace between the United States, Western powers and Russia, resolving those two three issues that really vitally interest Russia, such as the regions of Donbass, Crimea, which are easily resolvable and not necessarily with annexation to Russia but with guaranteed treaties by the United Nations and Europe, which establish that those regions have and enjoy a special status, exactly as in other countries of the world regions that are ethnically autonomous enjoy special statutes. Fair, clear, limpid, natural. If there is And then there's the party of !W NATO anyway?, !Let's go to war anyway?, or the morons who rave that Russia's attack on Ukraine prefigured a landing of the Cossacks at the fountains of San Pietro, if there are idiots, pardon the French, on the face of the earth, well there have always been and peace to their souls. What is the objective of the appeal you signed ? The document is part of a common sense discussion and has an objective: to achieve, not just peace, which is a big word, but at least a ceasefire. The European Union must tell Russia to stop the hostilities and stop shooting from tomorrow and, at the same time, must commit to the opening of immediate peace negotiations between all interested parties on the basis of some principles which are referred to in that short document. And they are factual principles: those recognized in the Treaty of Minsk, which was totally disregarded. !After 80 years we are still forced to see the dead. This is why even Article 11 of the Italian Constitution, to repudiate the war, is today in Ukraine, but also in the rest of the world Is it so current, whether large or small, even in the same families? the United States and Europe, which establish that those regions have and enjoy a special status, exactly as in other countries of the world regions that are ethnically autonomous enjoy special statutes. Fair, clear, limpid, natural. If there is and then there is the party of !W NATO anyway?, !let's go to war anyway?, or the idiots who rave that Russia's attack on Ukraine prefigured a landing of the Cossacks at the fountains of St. Peter , if there are idiots, pardon the French, on the face of the earth, well there have always been and peace to their souls. What is the objective of the appeal that ? signed The document is part of a discussion of common sense and has an objective: to achieve, not just peace, which is a big word, but at least a ceasefire.. The European Union must tell Russia to stop the hostilities and not shoot more from tomorrow and, at the same time, must commit to the opening of immediate peace negotiations between all interested parties on the basis of some principles which are referred to in that short document. And they are factual principles: those recognized in the Treaty of Minsk, which it was totally disregarded. !After 80 years we are still forced to see the dead. This is why even Article 11 of the Italian Constitution, to repudiate the war, is today in Ukraine, but also in the rest of the world, whether large or small, even in the same families, is it so current? anyway?, !let's go to war anyway?, or the idiots who rave that Russia's attack on Ukraine prefigured a landing of the Cossacks at the fountains of St. Peter, if there are any idiots, pass me the Frenchism, on the face of the earth, well they have always been there and peace be to their souls. What is the objective of the appeal that ? signed The document is part of a common sense discourse and has an objective: to achieve I'm not saying peace, which is a big word, but at least the ceasefire. The European Union must tell Russia to stop the hostilities and not to shoot anymore from tomorrow and, at the same time, it must commit itself to the opening of immediate peace negotiations between all interested parties on the basis of some principles which are referred to in that short document. And they are factual principles: those recognized in the Treaty of Minsk, which was totally disregarded. !After 80 years we are still forced to see the dead. This is why even that article 11 of the Italian Constitution, to repudiate the war, is today in Ukraine, but also in the rest of the world, large and small, even in the same families - it is so current? their soul. What is the objective of the appeal that ? signed The document is part of a discussion of common sense and has an objective: to achieve, I won't say peace, which is a big word, but at least the. ceasefire The European Union must tell Russia to stop the hostilities and not to shoot again from tomorrow and, at the same time, must commit to the opening of immediate peace negotiations between all interested parties on the basis of certain principles which are referred to in that short document. And they are factual principles: those recognized in the Treaty of Minsk, which was totally disregarded. !After 80 years we are still forced to see the dead. This is why even that article 11 of the Is the Italian Constitution, to repudiate the war today in Ukraine, but also in the rest of the world, large and small, even in families themselves, so current? hostility and to stop shooting from tomorrow and, at the same time, must commit to the opening of immediate peace negotiations between all interested parties on the basis of some principles which are referred to in that short document. And they are factual principles: those recognized in the treaty of Minsk, which was totally disregarded. !After 80 years we are still forced to see the dead. This is why even Article 11 of the Italian Constitution, to repudiate the war, is today in Ukraine, but also in rest of the world, large and small, even in the same families - is it so current?

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